Conference part 2, duration: 8 hours. Taking notes is allowed.
08:00 – 13:40 Rehearing the special conference by Gregorian Bivolaru with the topic: Indra - the divine leader of the realm of godly spiritual beings part 2.
14:00 – 14:30 Exemplification: Clear and firm spiritual invocation in out interior universe of the presence of the archangel Sandalphon.
14:40 – 17:00 Audio continued.
Alternative afternoon program
12:30 – 13:00 Exemplification: The state of spiritual communion with the Virgin Mary.
13:05 – 13:25 Laya yoga meditation with the mantra of Matangi.
13:30 – 13:57 Presentation by Gregorian Bivolaru titled: Archangel Sandalphon - The archangel of the Holly Spirit. Audio.
What does the archangel of the Holly Spirit mean? Is it like it's sidekick? It's bodyguard? What?
And the fact that everyone gets this "divine boost" from this angel and yet some people still (decide to) do harm is not discussed seems strange to me. All this talk about angels and divine purpose and divine boosts of endless love and all that crap but this is never discussed. If this god(s) that the MISA yogi is supposed to believe in is so omnipresent and has so many little helpers how the hell is doing wrong still possible? Why is it such an easy option?
A currently ongoing event is the riots in London and the UK. How can something like this happen while there is this endlessly loving and caring god in existence? And since MISA has a branch in the UK and they probably do all the great and divinely integrated actions traditional in MISA how did this still happen?
And how come there wasn't an announcement to help (at least in the imaginary sense in the MISA equivalent of prayer, subtly) the people involved? Are they going to wait until the riots are definitely over and then announce a special meditation/event to help them and declare victory? Like in the case of the Japanese earthquake earlier this year. To be sure that it has the outcome they want.
Also according to the official description provided this is supposed to be the divine postman that collects all the prayers that humans say and takes them to god. Well I don't know. I'd say he's kind of behind on that.
And of course the god answers with "yes", "no" and "wait" excuse is invoked.
Regarding this you can watch this video:
or this one
14:00 – 14:30 Exemplification: Clear and firm spiritual invocation in out interior universe of the presence of the archangel Sandalfon
Ah, the famous ying, yang and ying/yang spirals. All copyrighted of course.
The whole idea of this is self-contradicting. If the classic MISA yang spiral is the one that works then what's the situation with it's opposite the yin spiral? Is that a different form of energy like in the case of yoga postures (asanas) that have a yin and a yang side of execution (usually left-right)? If so why? And what evidence is there for any of this?
Add to this the fact that according to MISA doctrine women have a predominance of Yin and men have a predominance of Yang and both of them should work towards a harmony between the two and try to attain the state of the divine androgyny (this itself contradicts the very obvious and very widely practiced segregation of the two sexes) and that is completely contradicts this whole practice.
The whole point of Shakti and Vira groups is to reach to goal of becoming more feminine and more masculine respectively. If androgyny would be the real ideal then it should be the goal, not exaggeration of one's gender. For this see also.
Another widely held MISA belief is that certain foods and certain actions and certain things increase the yin and others increase the yang in ones being. And that a surplus of yin is bad for you. But you can never have enough yang. Many of the so called techniques taught in MISA's various courses have this sole purpose: to increase the yang.
So separating the two genders and putting the women together in a spiral that has the purpose of increasing the yin in their beings is downright despicable.
Mind you I did participate in a spiral like this and the result was exactly the same as for every other "normal" spiral: absolutely nothing. So I'm not actually worried that something bad will really happen to these people because it's all in their heads, but the question still remains: why would advanced yogis who have special insight and a special relationship with an omniscient god agree to participate in something that according to their own beliefs is bad for them?
Plus there is this problem of if a Yin spiral is good (in spite of all those reasons mentioned above) then why can't there be just Yin spirals only for women? If it's good than this should be a big part of the Shakti culture in MISA. Or maybe it is, and maybe I'm just not aware of this because I wasn't worthy enough to receive this secret.
Either way it should be worth a test. A simple test. Just gahter up a bunch of women, arrange them according to the method, do the meditation and after that have them write down separatley(!) their own experienece. If the excess of yin is bad for you idea (hypothesis) is correct then a wast majority of them (more than chance) should have a bad experience and the yin/yang spirals should be discontinued. Or the opposite, and then you should hold yin spirals for special shakti events. If you are not willing to do this then you are just lazy and wasting your time with listening to 8-10 hour long audio recordings of your dear master.
And then there's my favorite part in these spirals in the official camps, under the official and divinely inspired guidance of a genuine enlightened spiritual master: will they face towards the center or towards the outside? Because they kept changing it last year. At one event it was to the outside, at another to the inside. With no explanation of course. If there is one I don't know of it.
My problem with this is that in the case of the Yin/Yang spiral the women had to face outwards and the men inwards, and in the case of the classic yang spirals everyone had to face inwards. The rotation is also opposite in this case (I think). And everywhere else, in other countries where MISA's branches held yang spirals, everyone faced inwards towards the center of the spiral.
And then they changed it last year. With no explanation.
Well which one is it?
Does the fact that it's made up of only women make it a yin spiral? Or the rotation? Or the facing in or out? Or just the name in the program and nothing verifiable and hence non-existent in real life make it a yin spiral vs. a yang spiral?
And does this mean that all those spirals last year that had people facing in a different direction were ineffective? Or somehow different? Were they worse? Then why did you (the organizers and whoever's bright idea it was in the first place) have them do it in like that? Or were they better and in this case why have you been doing it in the opposite (=less effective) way until then? For 20+ years!
Wasn't the proper way to do this revealed fully and completely (and hence perfectly) at the first try since it was (supposedly via) divine revelation?
All in all this whole idea of a yin/yang spiral is stupid and inconsistent with their other beliefs, but it is a good idea PR wise. And looks good on photos. I guess that's the whole point. But no MISA teaches it's students humility and satisfaction with the divine will.
So anyways here's the program:
17:30 – 18:00 Entering the zodiac lines.
18:00 – 19:00 Forming the two spirals.
19:00 – 21:45 Meditations sustained spiritually in a subtle-telepathic manner by the master. No topic is given.
22:00 – 22:30 Exemplification: The state of deep communion with the mysterious subtle energy of divine humility, continuously equal with itself, deep and unique.
So it's energy that is equal to itself. Is that like dividing by zero? Where's physicist Mihai Stoian when you need him? Oh wait this might just be his bright idea.
A series 6 of 10.
00:00 – 06:00 Viewing.
B series 6 of 10.
White hall with columns.